Hey, when I delete my account, will my comments disappear? Just want to know if I need to hang around any longer than I need to.

You know you are allowed to just delete your account or not come back after a ban.

Just about to. Thought I'd try to help you improve before I do.

I also fail to see how you did not have the right to reply

I was banned for weeks remember? Even shit sites like reddit gives you a chance to respond and plead your case. Do you honestly, with all the knee-jerk bans you enforce, think you're never wrong?

an admin has not come here to remove or ban or even so much as supress a single one of your comments

I am impressed with this, it's honestly better than I expected.

second I fail to see the relivence of the feminim comment are you saying none of the admin understand feminism? what is your evidence for this? is this Marxist Feminism or Liberal Feminism?

The fact that there was a popular post on here with multiple people fantasising about sex with underage girls is a real cultural problem you have here. Anime is a hive of these people and you need to clamp down on it. This entire thing is rooted in one paedophile bearing a grudge about their underage porn being criticised. Cartoon or not, this is a very real problem. It’s illegal in Japan to produce, distribute, and possess porn with actual children, but unfortunately there are no such laws that apply to cartoons. This is the origin of much of these tiny girl/massive boobs porn. It's not cute, it's sick and has actual damaging consequenses in the real world. It should not be normalised. It's full of excuse making tropes like "she only looks like a child but she's ackshually totally hundreds of years old!". The genre has long had a problematic relationship with not only gender and racial representations but specifically the sexualisation of minors. Sometimes this is something annoying but relatively minor like revealing costumes or ridiculous boob jiggles, while other times it’s something more actively harmful, like adults preying on minors or stories that treat sexual assault as funny or romantic.

If you take nothing else away from this then start thinking about what is going on with lemmygrad and its "I can't believe it's not porn", porn.

Okay.

First I was the mod on GZD who took the mod action to ban you from the community, and removed the comment. The comment was not removed by the Admin team, nor was the word “racist” or “racism” used by them, but that was typed by me. There reason for a ban was “toxicity”. Given by far most of your ire has been directed at the term “racist” I would like to inform you that you are in fact lashing out at the wrong party here and if you feel the need to direct a complaint please direct it my way.

Thanks for coming out and owning up. But I knew it wasn't the admins who banned me for "racism". It was right there in the mod log. I made the post addressing both. I even seperated the two, saying that at a stretch I could forgive the charge of "toxicity" but the racism charge was outrageous and ridiculous. As I've seen, it was the first in a list of absurd charges against me, all based on liberal idpol weaponisation of minority bigotry. These bad faith attacks should be as punishable as the real thing. False allegations belittle the credibility of the real thing and in doing so enable more abuse.

you seem to be mixing up the reason why you where banned and the reason the comment was removed,

I never cared to be honest. It was all part of the same thing to me.

I would be willing to assume this related to the manner in that you lashed out after being corrected.

This is the same dishonest misreading that I've been calling out throughout. I "lashed out" at someone attacking me with loaded questions and putting words in my mouth in order to play to the crowd with performative rage. I did not lash out at being corrected. No honest reading of the exchange can come away with that framing.

As for the Racism, I cannot read your mind nor did I say that this was done with malice, however that “will you stop beating your wife” does come across as racist in some contexts, especially when one is not familiar with the turn of phrase.

I am not responsible for other peoples' knowledge and familiarity with the language we're communicating in.

I can tell you that I am familiar with the phrase however, there are 3 things to consider here, first not everyone knows this phrase, it is not really all that well known,

I don't care, this is irrelevant. We are text on a website.

2, there is a trope especialy in the US where people who are Muslim or from Muslim majority contries beat there wife,

Again, I don't care, this is irrelevant.

3, reports where coming in assuming that the coment was left in the context of the second and not the first. I can tell you that I was fairly confident that you meant it as the phrase for leading question, but it was clear to me that the community did not see it as such, and it would have been more detrimental to your case to leave that comment up, especially when you where not there to clear up the misunderstanding, and agian leaving the comment up would only inflame the comunity.

Oh no? This was all designed to rile up the community. Everyone wants to join in a pile on. Crowds can be ugly things. So I would have been downvoted. So what?

It is my opinion that my reason for removal is accurate

You were protecting the feelings of a manipulated mob?

You threw a massive tantrum over animated shows, from japan, being child porn, this resulted in a temporary ban on the GZD community

No, it wasn't a massive tantrum, it was about child porn I received in a box with a keyboard. I made the mistake of calling it "anime", that's all. The people who freaked out were the little girl cartoon enjoyers.

You got corrected for saying a difrent language was miss spelled, you lashed out at that You get back from a ban for “toxicity” and you throw a temper-tantrum because we do not treat you with childrens gloves or mod over exclusivly what you hold in your heart but instead on what we see.

Again with the false reading of the events and a complete excusing of my attacker. You just above admitted you were treating the mob with kid gloves to protect their feelings.

You seem to constantly take a normal interaction that happens in a community and if it is aimed aganst you, or opposes something you belive you lash out.

Constantly? Really? It was 8 months ago and I'd forgotten all about it, apparently someone else hadn't.

You still refere to all animated shows from japan as “Kiddie porn”

No that's not true. You just made that up.

You refer to the person you lashed out to as your abuser and attacker.

Yes. I lashed out at their attack and abuse, remember?

You feel as if moderation is a personal afront to you, and you have now reacted to feel as if that extends to anyone who has had any moderator or administrative action taken aganst them, and you call it bullying.

It amazes me how poor everyone is at lying here. This is another completely baseless lie. I don't think anyone who is ever modded is bullied?

I am not saying you are unable to change but you have to start now or this is only going to cycle or its going to end in a full instance perma ban, and from the hurt you are displaying over a 2 week ban I do not think you want that

Thanks for your thoughts, and you now have mine. I think you need to be less gullible and be more generous with the benefit of the doubt. You could have given a warning to the instigator but chose to be led by the charade they were carrying on with. I certainly will not be sticking around here. I'm just here to let everyone have their say.

You got banned for 15 days, nobody likes it, but it happens.

You don't even have an explanation for why you do this. It's just so you can wield power over people. It doesn't achieve anything else. It gives you pleasure. Do you think I "cooled off"?

You’re the one who brought it back up, everyone else on the site had already moved on. You could have also contacted us privately.

How? I was banned from the site for using a common expression remember? In response to an attack. You already admitted this. How could I have contacted you privately? Why would I? So you could ignore it and nobody else would see your abusive behaviour?

we don’t shut people up for posting and appealing their ban. And the fact that you were able to find a similar line in another thread is proof that we don’t silence people but let them hash things out instead.

There is no appeal? There's only this kind of thing? You silence people whether it's permanent or not. This is just mincing words.

You wanted to stir up trouble to go out with a bang as so many others have tried before you...

You’re not the first to try this. You’re not doing anything new or clever and you should stop before you embarrass yourself further.

This all sounds like a you problem. If you keep seeing these assholes everywhere...

You’re just making a scene and it’s getting old.

It was old yesterday.

Why are you even still doing this? Clearly you’re over this community, so just log off, no?

I told you yesterday, I wanted to give you the right to reply.

Okay, so “will you also stop beating your wife” is a very common edgy reddit response. Cool. Does that make it okay to say?

In the context of someone asking loaded questions it's always fair to say. There's more to online fora than reddit you know?

Are we allowed to say the r-word because 100 years ago it was a common medical term,

Jesus.

should have picked your words more carefully

I can't believe you're doubling down on this. It's the most pathetic excuse for a ban I've seen in a long time.

You overreacted to someone who was perhaps not the nicest

Hallelujah! Finally we got there! The first acknowledgement from anyone that I wasn't alone in the exchange.

Skipping the paragraphs of ranting.

Make a fucking report and stop being a petulant child.

I fucking KNEW this is what you'd come back with! You have a real problem with paedos on this site. Deal with it. This paedo was paranoid about their kiddie porn being criticised and carried a grudge for 8 months about it. This is all that this entire thing has been about. I can't actually believe that thread is still up and the users not banned. I've already reported it to you. Leave it up by all means and endorse it.

I gave you a proper factual response, at no point was I being disrespectful.

Here's your first lie:

She called you out for the misspelling that wasn’t one, and you reacted by asking “will you also stop beating your wife?”

Complete bullshit lie and any honest reading can see that. Completely erasing her abusive response to me.

Second lie:

can you agree that it may have been a factor in the user’s response?

A re-ordering of events, where the user's loaded question raging response is painted as being in response to my calling out of the loaded questions.

Then after I call this out you tried to weasel out of it by saying:

By call-out I mean her first reply in its entirety.

Pathetic. Then you have the gall to try to accuse me of what you were doing:

You’re trying to defend it and recontextualize it

I was giving the only truthful sequence of events. As soon as you were caught out you pretend you were referring to the entire conversation, as if that makes any sense.

And then to top it off, you ignore my corrections and claim everything else is off topic:

That’s where the discussion begins, everything else is out of topic.

Now that the A is off. You sir, are a liar. You tried to paint me as the instigator instead of responding to an attack.

at no point was I being disrespectful

Making up a lie about what happened, getting caught out and then just dismissing everything is not disrespectful?

Next you refuse to answer my three questions because I'm "asking tons of questions."

Third lie:

You asked someone if they “will stop beating their wife?” unprompted

Ukraine levels of lies.

Fourth lie:

and replied with “will you also stop beating your wife?” *implying that they beat their wife. *

That is not what the phrase implies and you know it. Liar.

I never threatened you with anything:

"If we wanted to give you different treatment we’d delete this post and ban your account permanently like we do for the many liberals that wander on lemmygrad."

You're very fond of this line aren't you? This is you again with the same line to someone else:

Nobody likes getting banned, neither do I, but if we wanted to silence someone we’d give them a permaban and refuse all their new account requests.

...as you silenced someone and gave them the same Smircula responses. It's basically, "You're lucky that's all we did to you!".

Does this kind of thing make you feel like a big man?

then we were not trying to “bully you” or “banning [you] without right of reply” like you proclaimed in the OP.

You both bullied me and banned me for 18 days without right of reply. You silenced that other user. The fact that you didn't do it permanently doesn't change this fact.

Do you sincerely feel threatened when you’re still commenting in this thread?

You started out looking for an excuse to deny me a right to reply:

As you know that’s a sitewide rule so before any discussion can take place we have to look into that.

... so I already felt like I was about to be arbitrarily silenced at any moment. That is a threatening feeling.

Everyone tries it after they get banned and nobody buys it.

Sounds like you're experienced in this and enjoy your work in banning users and lording your power over them.

I explained neutrally time and time again what the events of your ban were

And as I demonstrated in this thread, you lied every time and evaded when caught. That's not neutrality.

I stayed factual and rational throughout the exchange

You absolutely did not. See above.

Fifth lie, a new one now.

don’t expect me to remain casual beyond this point when you’re calling me a lowlife

I did not call you a lowlife. My direct quote:

"It’s just bullying and denying a simple process would be a lowlife thing to do."

Not much fun being called names is it? Not that you even were. Now imagine you were banned for weeks directly after. Try to have some empathy. Do you think I'm doing this for fun? None of this is enjoyable for anyone but I always stand up to bullying and unjust treatment. Hopefully you'll think twice before your hair trigger ban goes off again and I save someone else from this. Hopefully you as a group of admins take some lessons.

You're really bad at this. You showed yourself up badly and you're digging further. You should stop representing the admins here. You act as a group and you're embarrassing them.

Now put the A back on and go and do some useful Admin work like taking care of your child porn problem with my abuser fantasising about raping underage kids as I pointed out elsewhere. Eager to see what happens there, I'll check back tomorrow. You see I have actual evidence of that unlike you ever had for any of my accusations.

Has this all been worth it? The problem with being a bully is that eventually you pick on the wrong target.

You have no power over me anymore. If this is my last comment then fine. Nobody else is going to call you out because they fear you and see the repercussions and how extreme and immature admin is here. So you can continue to pretend everyone is on your side here and just forget about it if you like.

Thanks for the post. I appreciate the effort that it must have taken. This will be my last comment on the matter as I don't have any expectation anymore of a fair hearing. If I've come across as cranky and self righteous in this thread, well that's because I'm righteously aggrieved.

The fact that the only responses before yours were completely unable to justify my treatment without lies of omission and dishonest reframings of a very simple cut and dried short thread tells the whole story. In the end the given reason for my ban was for using a phrase to defend myself. A phrase that others, including you agree is commonplace. Me being labelled a racist without basis and told to "eat soft shit" is still unaddressed. This type of abuse is allowed apparently and tacitly endorsed by you.

Now I'm given a convoluted, contrived "threefold" excuse for a ban, that adds ableism and some kind of English speaking chauvinism to the other already dismissed baseless idpol based attacks, racism and transphobia. We've come a long way from sequences of misinterpreted characters. I guess homophobia or misogyny were too awkward to shoehorn in too?

Obviously the only other people in the thread who are going to chime in are just there to get their own boot in and join in the kicking of someone who was attacked, because it's easy prey. Like I said before it's simply Just World/Victim Blaming mindset. I've no doubt that many others are looking on in disbelief at what's gone on here. In the original thread someone has a deleted comment that I assume is pointing out that the phrase I was banned for was innocuous in itself. That they felt the need to then delete their own comment is telling.

There's nothing that could have been said to me that you couldn't just ignore or make light of as you so chose. Which is why I picked that title for this post. No level of abuse, "eat soft shit" etc... Now it's not even my words that are being used to hang me, it's daydreams about possible motivations and ... hey I don't really care anymore.

I'll leave some advice before I go about community building and how you should learn from this.

When you have a collection of generally well meaning people and you have a small number of those with power over them, these incidents are inevitable. Eventually as there's nothing real to police, people are just going to magnify and find new things to be falsely self-righteous about. Standards are elastic and applied selectively. Rules are made up on the spot, the cop mentality of circling the wagons and protecting each other from revolts are a timeless classic of all fora.

Now I don't in principle have an issue with the "heavy handed" moderation, but it needs to have trustworthy people with cool heads doing it. And it needs to be reasonably consistent. What are you even trying to achieve with your ban-first policy? What is the purpose of these bans? Punishment? Deterrence? This is just another reddit clone, except this time the people being harassed are comrades. You've corralled a large number of ML and adjacents into one panopticon that you'd expect would be a paradise of teaching and learning, but you have powers over people and those buttons aren't going to push themselves. Instead of policing real wreckers, trolls and idiots, you're finding minuscule issues like this one with which to feel smugly superior. I know exactly the temptation. I could go on at length on this topic. The skills needed to build a healthy community are not the same skills needed to understand theory, and not the same as the skills needed to run and maintain websites. You have something rotten in your admin culture. You have nothing original in this website. All of reddit's issues have been ported wholesale to here. Mods as eternal royalty with no oversight of their abuses. Admins roam the halls looking for random tone to police, and purity breathalysing discussions. I can give you examples but you know this already. This project will fail if you continue with this behaviour. The Matthew Miller treatment from people appealing their bans... Again I could go on for pages about the issues you have. People will get sick of it soon enough while you play choosing beggars for good contributors. We're here for the Yogthos posts and the odd interesting snippet of theory from someone you'll probably attack and drive away after some time.

The golden days of ML r/genzhou of the past few years is gone and this is a very poor imitation. The serious problem of open (and underground) paedophilia that's tolerated here (while simple expressions are banworthy) is a disgrace. There are multiple instances of this. This is my attacker fantasising about sex acts with fourteen year olds who can't consent. Insert your own alternative descriptions. Does their sensitivity about their cartoon sexualised kids make more sense now? They clearly had me tagged and decided to try to set a trap and do some perfomative outrage that you fell for. You can pretend that you weren't aware of this and the other instances of child pornography on the site. The fact that adult porn is banned here, even feminist porn, and this (that they openly admit to viewing as porn) is allowed, is nothing short of shocking. It's potentially very damaging to lemmygrad. I know admins have seen their bio with a little girl putting something in her mouth and orgasming. It's an entire genre, "ahegao face". So there's a serious cultural issue going on in general. Nobody, male, female, trans either gets to indulge in paedophile fantasies on even the shittiest of web fora. Get your shit together.

I was going to make another post about this so we could have a big discussion but I don't trust you enough to allow it. It will be interesting to see how you deal with this, since we know how low your bar is for bans. It's important that you deal with it openly in the light because I'll need to approach it from another angle if you try to cover it up. It needs to be dealt with appropriately and comprehensively. It's not even your only major issue. You should add a feminist onto the admin team. No, a real one.

You can ban me now if you like, or I'll delete my account in a couple of days, just to give you the right of reply that you denied me.

As far as I can tell, you and the other person in question have accounts of about the same age, with yours actually being a bit older.

Which makes it strange for the admin to raise account ages as a factor doesn't it? Why would it matter what age the account was? People should be treated with respect and given thebenefit of the doubt regardless of their time here.

If you are talking about this: The way the post is written, it is not clear whether she was aware of who you were until that moment and this part would imply that at worst, she was aware and was trying to give the benefit of the doubt and not fight at first:

Yes, this is the real root of the entire issue. I'll make that clear in another response. Stick around and see what happens. Maybe update your opinion. But at no point was any benefit of doubt given to me by her.

Set her off. Why, I don’t know.

Because the classic "genuinely curious" redditism is always a lie, every time. There was no "genuine fucking question" as she put it. It was all a set up to throw a tantrum instead of simply correcting the mistake.

You could have as easily said, “I misread and thought X was Y.”

At that point I was already attacked and she was dreaming up scenarios, putting words in my mouth and asking loaded questions. Yes you're right, this is exactly where it was escalated.

(In another post in this thread) you take a dig at her even in the process of trying to say it’s her who is holding a grudge?

Yes. I don't see the issue with this. It's the only theory that makes her tantrum make sense, and as you'll see shortly, she's very sensitive about her kiddie porn for a very good reason.

And this to an admin.

That admin was repeatedly dishonest, insulting and was threatening to deny my right of reply in a comm created for this purpose. It's just bullying and denying a simple process would be a lowlife thing to do.

Is it comradely to make sweeping proclamations that condemn others as trolls, abusers, and/or thugs over your personal reputation in one exchange on the internet?

No, I do not consider this person to be a comrade of mine, and you shouldn't either. This is just a "No u r" response to my valid question.

This isn’t a committee for the afterlife banishing you from eternal paradise, it was a temp ban on an internet forum.

This is an effective perma ban. How do you think I could possibly continue on here having been baselessly labelled as a racist with a target on my back for vindictive and emotional admins?

Instead, you have been very confident in a strong “you message” that others are mistreating you and actively intend to do so, with mind-reading and a singular shaky interpretation of their words and actions as the primary evidence behind your claims.

I am self assured in my righteousness because I am me, I know I am not racist, I know I was not toxic and I know I was attacked. These are things I can't not know. You're damn right I'm indignant.

It’s not always fair. Sometimes you have to be the more patient one and do what you can to deescalate.

I had plenty of time to think about this and decide on this approach. Give the admins an opportunity to explain themselves and they failed this simple matter, being completely dishonest throughout.

I mean nothing demeaning by this either. The point is to ground yourself, to ensure you can approach this from a position of clarity and readiness to handle the conflict without escalating unnecessarily. Take care.

I honestly appreciate the thoughtful way you've approached this. As I said above, I calmly and rationally decided that this was my only recourse. Give the admins a chance, they embarrassed themselves. Two tried to misrepresent the order of events, always erasing the abusive and toxic way I was responded to, the third has indulged in a new fantasy about me being ableist about dyslexia to add to me being called racist and transphobic. These conceited idpol attacks are so incredibly immature and the first refuge of a scoundrel.

What I see in that thread begins with you posting an aggressive, insulting reply to the original post.

An offhand remark mocking redditors? Come on. You're coming in and seeing what you want to see. That comment is perfectly normal.

The OP replied to you in a neutral and reasonable tone disagreeing with your initial accusation.

This is where you show yourself up. She attacked me, completely out of nowhere, that's what happened. You show your lack of honesty here. It's very hard to take you seriously now. This is where anyone discussing this falls down. Nobody is willing to be honest about this part. Two admins tried to lie about it and skip over it as if it didn't happen, it's the exact crux of the issue. You just tried to paint over it as a neutral and reasonable tone. You're insulting my, and all other readers' intelligence with this shameless lying. Do you think anyone is really fooled by this?

Yes, that would have been a great response.

So your issue really is with a very common expression that refutes dishonesty. It's a very strange position to take.

Again the point of contention is that you perceived a slight from the OP

Not quite, that I was slighted by OP in an attempt to play to the crowd.

and replied with “will you also stop beating your wife?” implying that they beat their wife.

Again with dishonesty. You're openly lying here and you well know it. You've already been informed of the very famous nature of this response and it is not to imply anything. Is she even married? Do I know anything about her? No. This is an incredibly weak line here and you're displaying a complete lack of accountability to the user base. No process of appeal, a circling of the wagons mindset with power protecting a select few "long time users", as the other admin put it, allowing some to have free reign to bully and abuse others.

If another admin wants to apologize like you’re asking for they can do that individually, we don’t control what other admins say, but from my end you feeling disrespected and treated unfairly is not in line with the reality of the situation and the chain of events. You wanted an admin response and this is it. You can keep poking at the topic if you want but it won’t change.

You can lie to yourself in plain view for all to see if you like. It's also for others to decide how much to trust you in all your projects and whether to leave themselves vulnerable to arbitrary censorship and abuse. I'm pretty sure you're not appreciating the gravity of what's happened here and its potential destructive impact into the future. I personally can't bring myself to collaborate with someone who is part of the group who perpetrated this cruelty. I don't think from your casual callous attitude that you even understand the hurt inflicted.

You’re also a long-time user so I don’t know why you feel like singling out that “Apparently “long time users” get different treatment.”

Because nobody censured my abuser for her treatment of a long time user.

Your problem seems to be with the user in question, not us.

It's both really. But I've no doubt that not all the admins are in on this. Some definitely have principles and integrity.

If we wanted to give you different treatment we’d delete this post and ban your account permanently like we do for the many liberals that wander on lemmygrad.

And in doing so permanently damn yourselves as a group of thugs without integrity or honour. Denying your users any right of reply or recourse to your petty bullying. Your emotional response here and thinly veiled name-calling just shows your immaturity along with your repeated dishonesty throughout this thread.

Edited mine too.

You’re going in circles and trying to point out a logical fallacy by asking tons of questions.

I deleted two questions to keep it on topic. I'm going in a perfectly straight line looking for evidence of my racism or that I was the one being "toxic". None have been provided.

The administration and everyone else who has commented here so far disagrees with you trying to walk it back.

No, they simply didn't engage with it but sought to derail the thread. Nobody offered any reasoned disagreement.

Don’t make these kinds of comments towards other users.

Which kind? Don't use extremely common defenses to dishonest attempts to slur people? You're standing up for the bully here.

By call-out I mean her first reply in its entirety.

Her first reply was to get me to list out the words I thought were misspellings so that I'd walk into the trap.

But yes, that’s where we disagree and where the bans came from

Could you clarify? Where do we disagree and where did the bans come from?

Your response to the user was out of proportion.

Because the famous loaded question analogy is triggering or something? If I'd just said "please stop with the abuse and loaded questions", then that would have been okay?

It was a proportionate response.

Telling someone to "eat soft shit" is proportional to a calling out of loaded questions? I don't think you've given this enough thought. This isn't holding water at all.

I got two different users confused. They told you this after you asked the first user if they “will stop beating their wife”.

You're misquoting me. They said:

Will you also start telling people... [fantasises about me doing things]

and in response I said:

Will you also stop beating your wife?

The famous response to being asked loaded questions. A perfectly normal and proportionate response that calls out the abusive loaded question.

You’re trying to defend it and recontextualize it,

It only has one single context. You're simply wrong here, it isn't a matter of opinion. If you were unfamiliar with the expression then all of this is more understandable. But now that you have no excuse to not understand it, then I don't know on what basis you're continuing to try to justify this response.

I still haven't heard anything at all to support the charge of racism.

I think you're too proud to admit that you messed up and you're circling the wagons like cops. I can't overstate how disappointing it is to see a group of people who call themselves Marxist Leninists have such low integrity and engage in a defensive, fanciful, ridiculous and obvious lie together instead of owning up to a terrible error of judgement.

Nothing I said was racist and nothing I said was any more toxic than how I was attacked. This is a fact.

Thanks, I appreciate the apology. I am not a transphobic person in any way. Maybe I should pay attention to peoples' bios more but I've never had any idea if I was talking to a trans person.

having an anime picture that could be found on vaush’s computer

To give a brief outline from memory. I recieved a few stickers in a box with a keyboard I bought. They depicted a cartoon little girl with enormous breasts. I brought this up in a thread and people went nuts about it, apparently I wasn't using the correct names for the sub genres of cartoon porn. I was pissed off about it and made that comment in a different thread. I was banned from hexbear for it.

It seems like there’s repeated transphobia coming from you, but I could be wrong I guess.

I've never been aware of chatting to a trans person on here.

They rightfully corrected you,

I would have no issue with a correction. It seems like nobody has anything to say about the lashing out that went along with the correction. I responded to the anger on display, it wasn't from me.

You keep invoking domestic abuse

No I don't. More dishonesty. I'm talking about verbal abuse.

She called you out for the misspelling that wasn’t one

Is that really something that needs "calling out"? Would a simple correction not be more comradely?

, and you reacted by asking “will you also stop beating your wife?”

This is not true. I reacted to this:

Will you also start telling people who type in Bahasa Melayu, Bahasa Indonesia (both of which use English letters btw); or really, people when they type any non-western languages (like even arabic for example) using english letters that they’re just “misspelling” shit?

Was this really necessary? What do you think this achieved? This is the toxic behaviour in the thread, the rest is my, far more tame, response.

It's telling already that two admins now have seemingly decided to be dishonest in their treatment of this and erase my attacker's behaviour.

Was it comradely to leave a comment up telling me to "eat soft shit"? Do you endorse that treatment of comrades?

This is not a contribution to this thread. I am not a mod of EuropeanSocialists. You are making up lies.

first of all don’t slander a longtime user as a troll

I was slandered as a racist by her, completely without any supporting evidence or argument because she bore a grudge from some ancient discussion. This is what happened.

for the crime of engaging with you in a singular comment chain

Now you're not being serious. That is not at all an honest reading of what happened. Please act with integrity here. You're showing that you have no interest in having a fair judgement on this.

One of you admins needs to take a few deep breaths and engage in some self criticism. What happened here was a travesty.

You have an opportunity to put your hands up and say you got it wrong. You watched someone attack a comrade out of the blue and not only did you stand back and let it happen, you helped them out of some kind of just world fallacious thinking. You saw someone raging and assumed their anger must have had some real legitimacy and that they were affronted by what had taken place, but as we saw later, they were just operating under a long simmering grudge about their ephebophilia hobby being criticised, months ago.

I did not know this. I've correct the post.

Is it really plausible that I come here looking for fair treatment and intentionally misgender someone, on lemmygrad and self sabotage my attempt to get a fair hearing?

OP is a transphobe. The pronoun “he” in this post refers to a trans woman.

WHAT??! Who? If I've accidentally misgendered someone then I apologise. I am not a transphobe in any way.

I think OP is accusing the trans woman they were arguing with of being a domestic abuser simply because OP wrongly views her as a man.

Nobody is accusing anyone of being a domestic abuser anywhere here. Are this many people not aware of this loaded question example?

This is even weaker than the accusation of racism. Completely baseless attempts to paint someone as an oppressor of minorities to try to whip up a crowd.

I mean you’re demanding an apology when you flipped out at a simple correction

But I didn't "flip out" at a "simple correction". I responded in kind to a troll who, as is plain to see for any honest reader, "attacked me for an innocent mistake, fantasised about me doing hypothetical racist things, asked me loaded questions and tried to put words in my mouth to fool credulous onlookers"

People expect a base level of respect here

Entirely my point. Did you see this happen with my abuser?

You're being dishonest.

and brought up a confusing analogy of someone beating there wife.

EDIT: "and brought up a confusing analogy of someone beating there wife." This is the canonical example of a loaded question.

Even if this was the root of your confusion, you still need to explain why you skipped over their performative outrage and abusive comments.